I've Seen Fire and I've Seen Rain: The Meaning Behind the Song and the Singer

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By angela_michelle

The Lyrics

Just yesterday morning they let me know you were gone
Susanne the plans they made put an end to you
I walked out this morning and I wrote down this song
I just can't remember who to send it to

I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again

Won't you look down upon me, Jesus
You've got to help me make a stand
You've just got to see me through another day
My body's aching and my time is at hand
And I won't make it any other way

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again

Been walking my mind to an easy time my back turned towards the sun
Lord knows when the cold wind blows it'll turn your head around
Well, there's hours of time on the telephone line to talk about things
to come
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you, baby, one more time again, now

Thought I'd see you one more time again
There's just a few things coming my way this time around, now
Thought I'd see you, thought I'd see you fire and rain, now

The Rock and Roll History

This is one of my favorite songs, and once I heard the true story behind it, I loved it even more, which I explain later in the article. James Taylor was not only the singer, but also the writer of this song. He was only 22 when this song became a hit, and he became a pop star. He stated that he wrote this song three different times throughout 1968. He began writing this while he was auditioning in London for The Beatles' Apple Records, then wrote more of it while at a stay in Manhattan Hospital. It was not finished until he was at the Austin Riggs Center, where he was staying for drug rehabilitation. An actual quote from James Taylor that he replied to in 1072 at an interview sums up the story line when he stated:

"Fire and Rain" has three verses. The first verse is about my reactions to the death of a friend. The second verse is about my arrival in this country with a monkey on my back, and there Jesus is an expression of my desperation in trying to get through the time when my body was aching and the time was at hand when I had to do it ... And the third verse of that song refers to my recuperation in Austin Riggs which lasted about five months.

Although he wrote this at only 20 years old, it touches people of all ages, and still relevant forty plus years later.

First Verse

Just yesterday morning they let me know you were gone
I just can't remember who to send it to
Susanne the plans they made put an end to you
I walked out this morning and I wrote down this song

The Susanne referred to in this verse was Susanne Schnerr that Taylor states he used to get high with and knew quite well. He met her in New York during 1967 and 1968 when he was part of a group called The Flying Machine. He had just begun becoming successful.

Susanne, or who Taylor affectionately refers to as Suzie, committed suicide. He was currently living in London with mutual friends. Since he was beginning to become famous, his mutual friends waited until later to give him the news, since they knew he was so excited about his upcoming record deal. He actually didn't find out about her suicide until six months later. 

He also states in one interview that he always felt bad about the line, "The plans they made put an end to you," because people have made assumptions to whom "they" are. He intended they to be the Fates.

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Second Verse

Won't you look down upon me, Jesus
You've got to help me make a stand
You've just got to see me through another day
My body's aching and my time is at hand
And I won't make it any other way

This verse was written after a stay in a hospital in 1968. He was battling a heroine addiction. This was a plea to Jesus, as in Jesus Christ, to help him 'make a stand' against his drug addiction. This really portrays how much of a hold the addiction had on him, especially when he belts out, "I won't make it any other way."

Although it would be nice to say that i 1968 he finally kicked the habit, But fortunately, he unlike many like him, was finally able to make a stand against his addiction. In 1986, he became sober, and has been sober ever since. Although he still refers to himself as a recovering addict.

Third Verse

Been walking my mind to an easy time my back turned towards the sun
Lord knows when the cold wind blows it'll turn your head around
Well, there's hours of time on the telephone line to talk about things
to come
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground

Earlier, during his senior year in high school, he had been treated at a hospital for depression. Him and a friend Danny Kortchmar decided to start a band called the Flying Machine. Unfortunately, or maybe a blessing in disguise as he ended up having a solo career, the band did not do well, and broke up only a few months after it started. The last line is referring to the band and his earlier attempts at finding success  as a writer.

This remains and probably always will be one of my favorite songs. It touches me on a deep level. Although I've never experienced depression or drug addiction, I still know how it feels to be on the bottom, hoping for a moment to rise. Life is like a roller coaster, many ups and downs, scary at times, exhilarating, and sometimes just plain boring. But I wouldn't replace anything in my life for anything.

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zzron profile image

zzron 21 months ago

This was nice, I like a couple of his songs but I mostly prefer faster classic rock.

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Pamela99 Level 7 Commenter 21 months ago

I enjoyed this hub and like that particular song as well as, many others of James Taylor.

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ecoggins Level 4 Commenter 21 months ago

My favorite singer impression is to do James Taylor. I love his songs. Thanks for sharing this hub.

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DiamondRN 21 months ago

I had never listened to all of the words before. I wasn't aware of his calling on Jesus. More people who are in trouble should do the same. Thanks.

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dahoglund Level 7 Commenter 21 months ago

I've never really listened much to Taylor but this is an interesting story about him.

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fred allen Level 1 Commenter 21 months ago

Wish you could have attached a performance of the song. Love the hub! I love good peotry. It displays the soul of the poet. It goes deeper than the words and the images they conjure. Most just scratch the surface of what is really being revealed. You dig deep. I like that.

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samsons1 Level 5 Commenter 21 months ago

beautiful, I always liked James Taylor.

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Dave Mathews Level 7 Commenter 21 months ago

Angela_Michelle: I've always enjoyed this song from James Taylor, and now knowing more about him I can have a deeper appreciation for the song still.

Brother Dave.

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Mentalist acer Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

I used to have him on 8-track and cassette,I wore him outLol;)

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Barbara Kay Level 6 Commenter 21 months ago

Hmm. I always liked this song, but I never noticed he called on Jesus either. I enjoyed reading this hub. Thanks Angela.

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Healing Touch Level 1 Commenter 21 months ago

I am a total James Taylor Fan. You had me at Hello. I tweeted this one. Great hub.

Healing touch

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

zzron, Thanks. I actually would agree with you, but there is something hypnotizing with James Taylor's voice. I absolutely love to hear him sing. Typically I prefer things more upbeat.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Pamela, I think me and you have a lot in common. We seem to like much the same things. :)

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Ecoggins, I have a proposition for you. If you make a youtube video doing your James Taylor impression, I'll put it up on ths hub! LOL> I'd love to see it. :)

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

DiamondRN, It surprises me how few call on Jesus in my generation. Generations past, at the Academy Awards they would thank God, you don't hear that quite as much as you used to.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Dahoglund, I think it was finding out this many years ago, is what caused me to become a big James Taylor fan.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Fred Allen, I may just have to find one. I am surprised I didn't think about it. Of course the sound on my computer is currently broken, so I haven't been putting videos on, because I don't know what ones are quality or not.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Samsons, I'm also a huge fan! Obviously!

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Dave Matthews, that is exactly how I feel about knowing the background of it.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Mentalist Acer, well, I used to have the Muppet's Christmas on 8-track, I hope you still have your 8-track! That would be really awesome. Not quite as cool as having a record, but still pretty neat.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks Aunt Barb!

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tonymac04 21 months ago

This is a very informative Hub about a song I have loved for many years. Interestingly I first heard the Joan Baez version and loved it, only lagter heard the a Taylor version and have been a fan ever since.

The song always intrigued me so I'm grateful for the background story.

Thanks for sharing this.

Love and peace

Tony

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Thank you so much Healing Touch I appreciate that!

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bayoulady Level 1 Commenter 21 months ago

James Taylor's smooth voice, oh my. Haven't thought of him for a long time.i am enjoying all of the biographies I've been seeing lately on the hubs, think I might do one myself.Rate up!

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Tonymac, I never knew anyone had ever redone the song. I wish the speakers on my computer were working otherwise I would youtube it.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Bayoulady, you should definitely do one. :) I was thinking about writing about Frederick Doublass, the ex-slave. Amazing story, it really opens your eyes to the terribleness of slavery.

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valeriebelew Level 2 Commenter 21 months ago

Loved this angela_michelle. I've experienced both depression and a drug problem, and I'm here to say the lyrics hit home. Wonderful hub. Voting up and awesome. (:v

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Valerie, I love when you can find a song that just really hits home, and helps you get through some of the low moments. :)

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FCEtier 21 months ago

I have the DVD of JT and Carole King -- great!

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coffeesnob Level 1 Commenter 21 months ago

Nice hub...I used to be all about James Taylor..always liked his music.. Isn't it a neat thing to be able to get a glimpse at what is behind the scenes in the mind of the artist. Most who write pour out experiences in some form..

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mhuze 21 months ago

Listened to this album on my Mom's old console stereo. Thanks for bringing back a good memory.

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ainehannah 21 months ago

Hi Angela Michelle, great to know the background to a classic such as this. Another album of his that featured Carol King's Up On The Roof and his own Handyman from 1979 was a big, big favourite of mine back in the day. Like mhuze, thanks for bringing back a good memory :0)

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

FCE tier, oh, I should see if I can netflix it, I think I would enjoy it.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Coffeesnob, one thing I find very interesting is that many performers will say they have a normal personality, then they have a stage personality. James Taylor actually stated in an interview that he is himself in his music. He acted as if that was not very creative and he lacked imagination, but personally I think it's kind of refreshing.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

mhuze, I love all the great memories that we have in our lives that are brought out by a certain song.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

ainehannah, honestly, I am a huge James Taylor song, there is just a few songs of his I don't adore.

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Minnetonka Twin Level 7 Commenter 21 months ago

I rated this hub Up, Awesome and Beautiful as it is very inspiring. I have always had a Big place in my heart for James Taylor. I followed him and his life as he struggled with demons and followed hin as a great and incredible artist. I always thought it was cool that someone this famous went on children's shows like Sesame Street. He definitely knows how blessed he is to be living a clean and sober life now and it shows in how he gives back. Thanks for a really enlightening hub.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks so much Minnetonka twin for rating it up. Yeah, he seems to be one of those artists that lives a good life not just a good singer. He doesn't seem to try to hide who he is either.

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SteveoMc 21 months ago

I love this song and I was moved by the explanation. Thank you so much. I want to hear it right now. Also, rated up and awesome. Wonderful hub.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 21 months ago

SteveoMc, the reason behind the story really moved me the first time I heard it. I wish my computer had speakers, otherwise I would add a video. I just can't tell if the video I would add would be quality or not.

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TomTipton 20 months ago

Thanks for the Hub angela_michelle.

When lyrics, melody, and emotion collide, you have a classic - something that never grows old. James is in (what I would call) the 3rd act of his career now but he still sings and plays with the same fervor of his early days. I still love to hear him sing

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angela_michelle Hub Author 20 months ago

He is one of the few musicians who has remained a powerful musical force for more than half of their lives!

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heart4theword Level 4 Commenter 20 months ago

Have to say I've always liked the song, yet never read or new anything about the singer...or the story behind the song. Thanks for sharing!

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angela_michelle Hub Author 20 months ago

Your welcome. James Taylor is one of my all-time favorite singers. I could listen to him sing all day long. I think he is one of the few celebrities that I would lose all verbal functioning around! I'd just stand there in awe!

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Eric Calderwood Level 3 Commenter 30 hours ago

I remember listening to this song as a young child. I always thought the whole song was about "Susan" and the line "the plans they made put an end to you" referred to some conspiracy in which she was murdered. Now I know the real story. Thanks for a great hub.

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angela_michelle Hub Author 24 hours ago

It truly is a sad story. My heart feels heavy everytime I hear those words.

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